Category Archives: interviewing

…more misguided (… Stupid) advice

So this week some job search guru goes on LinkedIn and writes an article about how interviewing and hiring authorities have an obligation to give you feedback about your interview with them… The guy goes on and on about how hiring authorities should and ought to give you feedback on the interview you had with them and how if you keep calling them, the good ones realize their obligation and will give you feedback…

Hokum… Garbage… BS… Laughable… Like what planet are you living on?… It’s obviously clear that this guy has never spent much time finding people jobs… It’s totally misleading to tell people that they’re going to get feedback from an interviewing or hiring authority more than, maybe once out of 15 times…

This guy goes on and on about how good managers, interviewers and hiring authorities should and will give you honest feedback  about your interview…DON’T BUY ONE WORD OF IT… I don’t know what this guy is smoking or where he dreamed this idea up… But the truth is 99.99% of all of the people you will interview with, unless they are really interested in hiring you and are incredibly nice,  are NOT going to give you any feedback about you or your interviewing…

Should they be willing to give you feedback? … Yes!… Will they tell you that they will?… Yes! Do they know it’s courteous to do that?… Yes!… Will they do it?… NO!!! is it rude?… Yes!…  Is it discourteous?! …Yes!… But, are they going to do it?…NO!

It’s not a matter that they are intentionally mean, or insincere, or rude… They are simply unintentionally mean, insincere, and rude… So you ask “how can people be that way?”… Really easy… They just are! You notice me writing about ‘spiritual beings acting human?’… Well, this is a manifestation of spiritual beings acting human…

So, you may ask for feedback from folks you’ve interviewed… Just plain don’t expect it… If you get it, you are blessed… but just don’t expect it. Don’t waste your time wondering why, hoping, wishing, begging, wondering, speculating… Just accept the fact that you’re not going to get it, quit cursing the darkness and move on to the next opportunity…

Having done this for more than 40 years the only reason I can imagine that people will be, at best, inconsiderate is because they are so busy and so wrapped up in their own lives that giving you feedback on your performance in an interview is just  not a high priority to them… Ironically,  when they become a candidate and go to look for a job they can’t believe that interviewing and hiring authorities are so rude…

So, quit losing any emotion over this and move on…

…Teaching folks how to get a job

I’m firmly convinced that the majority of people that are out of work and claim they are looking for a job really aren’t… When you look on the Internet about “how to find a job,” 90% of the stuff you see talks about how to craft a resume and how to send a resume to a company…Sending a resume is NOT Looking for a job… It just isn’t… On top of the entitlement attitude of “where’s my job?…can you email it to me?” People really don’t do all of the things they need to do to get a job… To get a job, you gotta get interviews… Face-to-face interviews… those are absolutely the only things that matter… and then you have to do a lot of it… It’s gonna take, on average, 16 interviews to get a job offer… even if you don’t like that job offer… In the last blog post I wrote, I explained how many calls and how many presentations of yourself it’s going to take to get one person that might listen to you and how many of those it’s going to take in order to get somebody interested in you and how many of those it’s going to take to get somebody to interview you… I can’t change the stats… your effort to get interviews is going to take one hell of a lot of work… And then you have to sell yourself, really, really hard… most people just plain don’t interview very well… they don’t sell themselves… they say stupid stuff… they don’t ask for feedback… they don’t ask for the job… so they don’t get hired… 60% of the people who were hired are hired through personal contacts… relatives, friends, acquaintances, present and previous peers… Everyone knows at least 200 people… Remember there are 7.4 million business establishments in the United States with an average of 15.4 people working in them… and every one of them needs help… every one of them!… If one person made an offer to one business that they could show that business how to make them more money or save them more money and really did it,  7.4 million people could go to work tomorrow… Pretty simple!

…practice, practice, practice

…”just get me in front of them”…my candidate said..”i’ve always done great in interviews…it won’t be a problem”…

he blew the interview…thought this was 1998 or 2005 when you could do a mediocre job of interviewing and still get hired…

it ain’t that way any more…you gotta be really good…too many good candidates that sell themselves very, very, very well…

so, you gotta practice, practice, practice interviewing…the structured interviewing techniques i recommend in www.thejobsearchsolution.com are the way to go..but you have to practice

don’t think interviewing comes naturally..it doesn’t..you have to practice…you can get eliminated so easily if you don’t really present a feature, advantage and benefit value proposition about yourself and about what you can do for them… 

…”i’m very interested”

…this is sooooooo weak …and it is the last idea most candidates give a hiring authority…

mamby-pamby…has absolutely zero impact…if that is the best emotional effort you can express to a hiring authority…go home!

your competition is gonna eat your lunch…

try this: “your opportunity is an excellent one…you should hire me because ………(and if you can’t think of two or three short, compelling reasons to be hired, you don’t deserve the job)….what do i need to do to get the job?”

even if you may not want the job…you have nothing without an offer…

i had a candidate that was simply “practicing” this technique with one of my clients..he didn’t think he wanted the job even if it was offered…

he got the offer…$42,000 MORE than what he was making for a salary…not bad..especially in this market he took the job! 

…another career coach advice..”don’t act like you are looking for a job”

…i read ’bout every book on finding a job i can find…new one on the market “Get the Job You Want Even When No One’s Hiring”

now, being an author and wanting people to like my books, i am real flexible and forgving about most errant stuff about finding a job..

but this guy actually tells you to act like you aren’t looking for a job when you interview

go ahead, do that…other candidates, especially mine, will eat your lunch…that is the biggest piece of terrible advice you will ever get…it is clear that this guy never found anyone a job, or if he did it was an accident..

…”Do you have any questions?”

One of our candidates was eliminated because he was asked this question…in a phone interview, no less…He said, “I guess I don’t …you have told me everything I need to know.”

 

Oh, my…not good…first of all, always have decent, intelligent questions about an opportunity…if you can’t really think of any…and you can if you try…ask the interviewing authority about themselves…”tell me, why do you like it here at ABC Corp.?”…” I have heard a lot about you and your success here, how have you done it?” If you can’t think of any business questions…ask them about their favorite subject….themselves!

 

Secondly, an interviewing authority doesn’t care about what you need to know…they care about what they need to know…so keep that phrase out of the conversation…So you say, “Damn that is really picky!”…you are right…it is…even unfair…what is even more sad about this particular situation, is that our candidate was exceptionally qualified…a top performer…

 

In this market, where companies and the hiring authorities in them think that there are hoards of quality candidates available… (There are hoards…but not necessarily qualified)… you have to interview almost perfectly…Every interview guide and coach teaches you to have one or two questions to ask…our candidate had been one of our client’s top competitors…he could have had a dozen questions…He thought he had done so well on the interview that he didn’t have to ask any questions…very sad

…Mangled metaphors & misapplied analogies

Can’t tell you the number of very educated candidates over the years that in their speaking become fond of metaphors…which is OK…however…they mangle the metaphor…

They say things like “pass mustard“…instead of “pass muster”…”took off like haywire”…instead of “wildfire”…”preaching to the congregation“…instead of “choir”…in the last week I have had four different candidates tell me they wanted to “hit the ball running,” “give their best foot forward,” or said,”I’m living fat on the hog” and the cream will rise to the crop”…I could go on, but you get the message…we have all heard folks do this at times…we are amused and kind of laugh…But in the interviewing situation, they can be disastrous…especially if they are repeated…repeatedly…they are distracting and, in most cases, don’t reflect well on the person being interviewed…Soooo, practice interviewing…if you have a tendency to mangle your metaphors or misapply your analogies, have someone help you or get yourself some cheap broadband and google a few…if you are going to loose a deal, don’t let it be over something so simple to correct..So, keep your nose to the ground and your ear to the grindstone…practice interviewing…watch the pictures you describe…

…don’t assume anything until you interview

candidate last monday says, “oh, i know them..i wouldn’t work there…they are blah, blah, blah”

i convinced him to go on the interview..he got the offer today and starts at the company on monday..

when i was much younger and much less experienced in this profession, i believed candidates when they said something like this…i figured they ought to know..especially when it is a competitor…

well, they don’t …my candidate had no idea what he was talking about…he “checked” the company out with friends of friends of friends of friends..who didn’t know what they were talking about…

companies change more rapidly than ever…going by what someone else says or thinks isn’t smart…

make your own judgement about a job and a company…interview anywhere you can, with anyone reasonable…you have nothing until you have an offer..

if you don’t like the opprtunity or the company after you interview…for whatever reason,  you can drop out of contention..

and as long as we are at it…interview as well as you can, even if you don’t think you will want the job or the company…sell yourself as hard as possible…you need a job or need to change jobs…don’t let your preconceptions get in your way…you really don’t know as much as you think you do ..get in the habit of getting offers…

….never let the fear of striking out get in your way

the past two weeks have been hectic…appeared on one dr.phil show…took two days…and “appeared” on another one over the phone..

one of the dr.phil guests i am helping…you can see the show on april 29th…lost his job last december…here it is april and he has only had three interviews…

why???..’cause he is just plain scared…pure fear…simply paralized by fear…he has been so afraid of getting rejected he doesn’t try to interview..

fear is overcome by massive action…in the words of babe ruth, “never let the fear of striking out get in your way!”

…i can’t believe it

..top flight candidate…successful everywhere he has ever been…earned close to $1 million a couple of times…

goes to an interview i get him and call the receptionist “sweetie“… unbelievable…cost him the opportunity for the job..

twenty years ago, that would have been OK…not great, but OK…but it won’t work today..

never, ever be condescending, flirty, cutesie…anything but business…what a screw-up