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he is going to negotiate anyhow&#8230;(so much for my expertise)&#8230; so he tries to get a hold of the hiring manager.\u00a0 He can&#8217;t find him so he writes an e-mail back to the HR director at corporate who sent him the offer, and tells her he wants $10,000 a year more in salary&#8230; she doesn&#8217;t know what to do, so instead of calling the hiring authority, she sends the e-mail requests to the vice president&#8230; he vaguely knows what&#8217;s going on, as he had spoken to Chris on the phone before Chris got hired and his natural reaction is not only &#8220;no&#8221; but &#8220;hell no&#8221;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The VP calls the hiring authority, his subordinate, and leaves a voicemail of something along the line of, &#8220;who the hell is this guy\u00a0who thinks he can or should negotiate another $10,000 in salary by e-mail with the HR department?&#8221; The VP went on to say that the hiring authority should rescend the offer immediately.<\/p>\n<p>I can&#8217;t say I blame the vice president or the company&#8230; that was a very unprofessional way to try to negotiate a better offer&#8230; the lesson is: don&#8217;t try to negotiate an offer after it&#8217;s in writing and don&#8217;t negotiate by e-mail and don&#8217;t negotiate with someone in the human resources department and don&#8217;t let what you write get in the \u00a0hands of a vice president who has no patience with this kind of thing&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Chris was shocked when the offer was rescinded and tried to &#8220;recoup&#8221; by telling them he&#8217;d accept the offer just as it is&#8230; sorry, the damage had already been done.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re gonna negotiate, do it before a formal offer is made and do it with the hiring authority, the one\u00a0who you have rapport with and the one you&#8217;re actually going to be working for&#8230; and, oh yeah, read the parts of my blog that talk about how to negotiate before you do it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>I really don&#8217;t have a lot of empathy for Chris, he screwed it up.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230;So Chris is told he&#8217;s going to get an offer&#8230; 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